Oppo photogs: Sony or Nikon?

"CB" (jrcb) 09/29/2018 at 19:25 • Filed to: I have no idea what I'm doing

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Thinking about a new camera upgrade in the next year. Going to either go with a D7500 or A7II (the A7III will be a little rich for my blood) . I don’t really have any brand allegiances. Nikon has better lens support, but people seem to love the Sony cameras . Any opinions?

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > CB 09/29/2018 at 19:40

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RE: lens support...

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Captain of the Enterprise > CB 09/29/2018 at 19:40

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I think your major decider is if you want mirrorless or a DSLR.

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > CB 09/29/2018 at 19:42

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My camera is Apple-branded.

CB > Captain of the Enterprise 09/29/2018 at 19:44

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I think mirrorless would be cool to try out.

CB > gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee 09/29/2018 at 19:45

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Your camera is also at 1% battery.

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > CB 09/29/2018 at 19:46

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Anything but Nikon. IMO Nikon doesn’t make anything worth buying outside of their pro-level stuff anymore. Having used both SLR and mirrorless recently I’d say the traditional SLR advantages have pretty much been eliminated and I’ll never consider another D SLR over mirrorless when it’s time to replace my older Nikon in a year or two. Also, Canon doesn’t seem to lock down their lens electronics to the same extent that Nikon does, so you can get adapters  for the Sony to use all Canon lenses that allow full autofocus and image stabilization.  Metabones makes one that I’ve heard works well.  It’s $400 but if you’re worried lens support it opens up a huge new set of options. 

chaozbandit > CB 09/29/2018 at 19:49

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As someone who shoots Sony (and has shot the A7m2), that’s the one I’d go for. In either case there’s only a handful of lenses you really need, and while Nikon has better (affordable) native glass there’s a lot of nice stuff from third parties you can play with down the line, adapted or otherwise. I find Sony AF to be better but Nikon bodies have better ergonomics. They’re both about the same to actually shoot with given some time.

Once you get to know each system they’re both pretty easy to shoot. Being able to instantly review shots and adjust on the fly is a big win for mirrorless, at the expense of battery life. If you’re buying really nice constant f2.8 glass later on, it helps to not also have an equally heavy body to lug around for hours on end. 

In either case, both bodies will give a casual shooter plenty of room to grow into even with kit glass so it’s really down to personal preference. If you can, drop into a local camera shop (Henrys/Visitek if in ON, otherwise Bestbuy or equivalent) and have a play.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > CB 09/29/2018 at 19:52

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I have a Nikon D3300 DSLR and it’s been a great camera! :)

gmctavish needs more space > CB 09/29/2018 at 19:55

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I like my D5300 a lot, and my dad loves his D850, but I’ve never used a Sony camera so I can’t really help

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > CB 09/29/2018 at 20:02

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No, it’s at 42% . You must not be able to  see the gauge from where you’re sitting. Here, is that better?

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > CB 09/29/2018 at 20:12

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I just bought a Sony A6000 and so far it's been goddamn amazing.

horizonsofkhaos > CB 09/29/2018 at 20:16

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Ultimately whatever camera you end up choosing, the glass makes all the difference. I haven’t used the D7500 before but my most recent usage of a more entry level Nikon was with a D5300 which I found to be a solid little camera. Did well enough to get by but I needed a more pro style body in the long run. If video is at all in your realm of potential usage I’d probably lean towards going with the Sony environment. Nikon’s video offerings still aren’t the best, especially if you need to shoot with any kind of autofocus.

interstate366, now In The Industry > CB 09/29/2018 at 20:18

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Why no  Canon?

CB > gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee 09/29/2018 at 20:22

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A little more to the left, thanks.

CB > interstate366, now In The Industry 09/29/2018 at 20:23

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Meh. It would either be stick with what I have (Nikon) or try something new (Sony). Canon I don't really care for.

CB > horizonsofkhaos 09/29/2018 at 20:24

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I've got a solid lens for my current camera that makes me 100% agree with the glass comment.

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > CB 09/29/2018 at 20:34

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Shoot. That little extra bit of left knocked it off the desk. Thank China for rubber- dampened billet aluminum cases.

interstate366, now In The Industry > CB 09/29/2018 at 20:35

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Gotcha. I mainly use Canon myself, but I also have a couple of old Sony cameras.

Monkey B > CB 09/29/2018 at 21:06

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I don’t have any regrets with my mirrorless, sometimes mid-fi hits the mark.

Aremmes > CB 09/29/2018 at 21:07

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If you’re new to DSLRs and/or don’t have a current investment in gear (lenses in particular), you’ll benefit from going to a proper brick-and-mortar camera shop where you can actually try out the cameras in your hands. Different brands have different ergonomic philosophies and standards as well as different opinions about the balance between feature sets and image quality. Also consider what you’ll primarily use the camera for; some brands do some jobs better than others: e.g., mirrorl ess cameras seem to handle video better than others.

Since you say you’re not attached to a brand, and if you plan on taking still pictures most of the time , I suggest you take a look at Pentax. They seem to be the only make to care as much about the photographic experience as image quality. All of their camera bodies (except the monster 645z) have in-body image stabilization, which reduces lens complexity and cost, and grants image stabilization to every legacy lens that you can fit on them.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > CB 09/29/2018 at 21:14

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Current Nikon owner here (D80, D300S). If I were to do it over again, I would go Canon. More used gear for sale around here, and the way that Nikon handled the oil on the shutter issue turned me off from the brand.

The Dummy Gummy > CB 09/29/2018 at 21:24

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What are you trying to do? What is your photog knowledge?

The Dummy Gummy > interstate366, now In The Industry 09/29/2018 at 21:25

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I like/use Canon, but you get burned hard on pricing.

Aremmes > Aremmes 09/29/2018 at 21:27

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Kinja eated part of my post.

All of Pentax's bodies and most of their lenses (including kit lenses) are water-resistant, so you can take them out in the rain or snow without worry. They also offer some features not found in other brands, like TAv Mode (simultaneous shutter and aperture priority), Astrotracer (allows for astrophotography without requiring an equatorial mount by using GPS, accelerometers, and image stabilization), and more recently Pixel Shift (shifts the sensor by one pixel in each direction to take multiple pictures and combines the results to reduce noise and increase dynamic range). They’re also well known for having excellent low-light performance. Also, what’s widely regarded as the best portrait lens ever made, the FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited, is a Pentax.

CB > The Dummy Gummy 09/29/2018 at 21:41

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Landscape and street photography. 

wafflesnfalafel > CB 09/29/2018 at 21:52

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I’m a Canon guy, but that Sony looks pretty spectacular.... If I was going mirrorless I’d go Sony at this point still.

The Dummy Gummy > CB 09/29/2018 at 22:03

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I’d say either or, they are both kind of overkill for just that. But if you have the money to burn. Personally I’d probably just go A7ii because the stabilization is a lot stronger and if you want to just ignore tripods (likely for you), this ones better. Also mirrorless is a lot better. Both S ony and N ikon lens are reasonably priced and S ony is making a big push which will benefit you as prices will dip . I’d also go used to save a fuck ton of money on either. 

CB > The Dummy Gummy 09/29/2018 at 22:09

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I want a good quality camera  because I want to start printing my photos, but I'll agree that it's a bit overkill.

HammerheadFistpunch > CB 09/29/2018 at 23:05

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The A7 takes amazing images, but it all comes back to glass.  its my opinion that ANY camera you buy should be able to support either nikon or canon glass in some useful form.  The lens format wont go anywhere so in 3 years when the camera body is worth dick, at least the lenses will still be nearly full value.  

The Dummy Gummy > CB 09/29/2018 at 23:09

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I mean that’s fair, but there is a lot you can do with cameras that can do in raw. If you’re going to go big, you might as well go mirrorless and be done with it. That camera will last you a very very very long time. I recently got a Fuji X-T1 to add on top of my Canon g7x mark ii. I’m very excited about the prospect of lens switching. 

pip bip - choose Corrour > CB 09/30/2018 at 05:36

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